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Planetdance for windows / Lifetime Solar Returns
« on: October 17, 2020, 07:38:22 PM »
There is the new module for Planetdance. You can find it under the Time menu:

Time-Tools: Lifetime Solar Returns: module that calculates 100 years of solar returns for the place of birth.

From the Help File: This module shows a circular presentation of the positions of planets at each solar return, in relation to the natal chart over a set time period. The return positions calculated for the place of birth. The calculations are completed for a 100 year period.

The positions of each planet are shown by a small circle on the natal chart. Retrograde planets at the solar return are shown with a turquoise highlight. On the righthand side of the screen the date and time of each solar return is listed. The positions of the inner planets, Mars and moon are also shown, along with their sign and degree position.

Users can calculate a particular solar return by clicking on the list entry of the relevant year and using the Menu button in the main window to choose the item Calculate Return. This will calculate the solar return for the place of birth and display the chart in the main Planetdance window.

There is also an accompanying video on Jean's youtube channel.

Thanks. Ed

Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Medieval Victor of the Chart
« on: October 04, 2020, 04:09:14 PM »
Hi Steven - that's an interesting question. I guess the brief answer is that they all measure different things in different ways.

Lord of the Geniture: in Planetdance, this algorithm is derived from the work of William Lilly. It is a way of determining which planet has the most essential and accidental dignity in the horoscope. Essential dignity is derived from a planet's placement in it's sign and is determined by rulership, exaltation, triplicity, bound/term and face. A planet's dignity, or lack of it, is determined by its detriment or fall. Accidental dignity is determined by the planet's placement by house and other factors such as relationship to the Sun, aspect and motion (speed, direction). Each factor is assigned a score, and the total of these scores is summed: the planet with the highest score, in theory, is the most powerful planet in the horoscope.

Victor of the Chart: the module in Planetdance is derived from the work of Ibn Ezra, the medieval Arabic astrologer. This is a different algorithm, that looks at the essential and accidental dignity of planets in relation to the five hylegical points: Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Fortune and Pre-Natal Lunation. In essence, the victor of the chart is the planet which holds most influence over these five soli-lunar factors in the horoscope. This may not be the same planet as the lord of the geniture. Accidental dignity is assigned on the basis of house position, and day and hour rulership.

Oikodespotes: this is taken from Hellenistic astrology. The oikodespotes is the ruler of the predominator of the chart. The predominator is the sect light and is identified by whether the chart is diurnal or nocturnal. The sun is the sect light of a diurnal chart if it is in a non-cadent house. The moon is the sect light of a nocturnal chart if it is in a non-cadent house. If both are in cadent houses, the ascendant becomes the predominator.

Atmakaraka: from Vedic astrology. In Jaimini, this point is the planet placed closest to the end of it's sign.

Case study: Donald Trump

All calculations use Egyptian bounds, sect-based day ruler and sect-based triplicity ruler

Victor of the Chart: Saturn

Lord of the Geniture: Mars (Saturn scores a lowly 5 - it's in detriment and peregrine - has no essential dignity, but has quite a lot of accidental dignity)

Oikodespotes: Mercury (ruler of the Sun, which is ruler of the ascendant)

It's important to consider the victor and lord of the geniture together. Saturn has a great deal of influence over the hylegical positions (Sun, Moon, Fortune, Ascendant and pre-natal lunation). We might say that the integration of these soli-lunar factors requires Saturnian discipline in Trump's case. However, Saturn is poorly dignified essentially (it's pretty much as difficult as it can be from this point of view), but has quite a lot of accidental dignity by house, solar relationship, speed and direction. Overall, we might conclude that Trump needs Saturnian discipline to master his soli-lunar factors, but he has little intrinsic Saturnian qualities himself. The accidental dignity of Saturn suggests that the discipline needed for this comes from the circumstances of his life rather than his character.

Mars has the most accidental and essential dignity in the chart, and is likely to (literally) lord it over the rest of his planets. However, Mars has little to do with the soli-lunar placements identified by the victor of the chart. Being highly angular in a fiery sign, gives him a very direct, intractable character (along with other factors such as temperament).

The oikodespotes is Mercury, ruler of the solar lord of the ascendant. This planet probably says a lot about Trump's approach to communication (it's in Cancer, in water) and how he uses it to reinforce his personal style (Sun in Gemini).

I hope that helps.


Good work Jean - it's good to see the forum being helpful in the bug search.

Best wishes. Ed

Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Medieval Traditional Chart
« on: September 29, 2020, 09:55:26 PM »
Thanks Sindy - glad the problem is fixed. Ed

Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Medieval Traditional Chart
« on: September 28, 2020, 07:18:04 PM »
Thanks Jean.  :)

Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Medieval Traditional Chart
« on: September 28, 2020, 06:33:02 PM »
Hi Sindy - apologies for the regression.  :-[ I've fixed it now. I've also altered the marker colours. Let me know what you think. I'll send the update to Jean for release.

All the best. Ed

Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Medieval Traditional Chart
« on: September 28, 2020, 06:15:51 PM »
Ed those texts in the left bottom corner are inside a loop. They are bold and a bit diffuse because of that.

Fixed. Thanks Jean.

Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Medieval Traditional Chart
« on: September 27, 2020, 10:24:47 AM »
Hi there - I'm releasing an important bug fix for this module later today.

27 September 2020

v.7.66 - bug fix for directed angles

If you are a regular user of this module I recommend that you update as soon as possible.


Hi there - could you PM me with your email address and I will send you this file. Thanks. Ed

General Astrology Topics / Re: welcome to the boards
« on: September 07, 2020, 06:24:52 PM »
Welcome Ima - thanks for joining the Planetdance forum. Best wishes. Ed

Hi Ima - apologies that I can only reply in English. I also recommend Nick Campion's Book of World Horoscopes. Nick is a historian and his extensive research means that this is the best source of mundane data, which is what you are looking for. Ed

Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Medieval Victor of the Chart
« on: September 06, 2020, 06:25:23 PM »
Hi again - Jean will be uploading an instructional video about this module today. See the youtube channel for more details.

Thanks. Ed

Planetdance for windows / Re: embedded script windows.
« on: September 06, 2020, 02:03:09 PM »
Hi Jean - indeed - good idea to test for a few days first, but the first attemmpt looks very promising. I like the idea of having graphical information alongside the wheel. That would be very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to do this work. Ed

Planetdance for windows / Re: embedded script windows.
« on: September 06, 2020, 01:48:58 PM »
Hi Jean - so these tabbed windows could be used for ab scripts. It's an interesting prospect and would open up lots of possibilities for integrating scripts with the main program window.


Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Medieval Traditional Chart
« on: September 05, 2020, 06:41:47 PM »
Thanks Jean - I will update now. Best wishes. Ed

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